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A show about queer women in history and historic literature, plus coverage of the field of sapphic historical fiction. Content note: May include discussions of sex within an academic context.
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Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Book Appreciation with Anna Clutterbuck-Cook (part 1)
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 109 with Heather Rose Jones
In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting. This time we had so much to talk about we split it into two episodes.
In this episode we talk about:
- How the pricing structure of lesbian romance can form a barrier to general readers entering the market
- Decoding how to find books that hit your sweet spot when entering a new reading community
- How the history of lesbian small presses shapes price and content expectations
- Some comparisons between f/f and m/m book communities
- How latent sexism in the romance market affects the acceptance of f/f stories
- Popular m/m and m/f romance authors putting a toe in the waters of f/f romance--what does it mean for f/f-only authors?
- How do we overcome barriers to cross-promotion between siloed reading communities, when recommendation networks don’t overlap
- Lesbian publishing as a “walled garden”--the ups and downs of curated spaces
- Dealing with cross-gender motifs in historical fiction
- Complications of gender and sexuality in historic societies
- How to identify with characters without owning them--resource scarcity and contested spaces
- Three models for communicating queer content in books: the donut shop, the whisper network, and the detailed menu
- Fan fiction and learning acceptance of multiple readings of a text
- Gender dynamics in fan fiction and the distribution of f/f stories
- Envisioning independent women in history--how the sexism of popular media lies to us about the lives of historic women
- Fan fiction generations pre- and post-Xena
- Books and Resources Mentioned
- ”That Could Be Enough” by Alyssa Cole
- f/f fiction by K.J. Charles
- f/f fiction by Jordan Hawke
- The Ripped Bodice (bookstore)
- Smart Bitches Trashy Books (website and podcast)
- ”Black Widow, Scarce Resources And High-Stakes Stories” by Linda Holmes (NPR essay)
- ”The Mazarinette and the Musketeer by Heather Rose Jones
- Anna’s f/f fan fiction for Downton Abbey and Upstairs Downstairs
- Archiev of Our Own
A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Anna Clutterbuck-Cook Online
- Website: The Feminist Librarian
- Twitter: @feministlib
- Archive of Our Own: elizajane
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
Tuesday Oct 06, 2020
On the Shelf for June 2019
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 108 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.
In this episode we talk about:
- My recent conferences
- Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
- Frankfurter, David. 2001. “The Perils of Love: Magic and Countermagic in Coptic Egypt” in Journal of the History of Sexuality vol.10 no. 3/4 480-500.
- Horváth, Aleksandra Djaji?. 2011. ‘Of Female Chastity and Male Arms: The Balkan ‘Man-Woman’ in the Age of the World Picture” in Journal of the History of Sexuality vol. 20 no. 2 358-381.
- Sienna, Noam (ed). 2019. A Rainbow Thread: An Anthology of Queer Jewish Texts from the First Century to 1969. Print-O-Craft, Philadelphia. ISBN 978-0-9905155-6-2
- Loughlin, Marie H. 2014. Same-Sex Desire in Early Modern England, 1550-1735: An Anthology of Literary Texts and Contexts. Manchester: Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-0-7190-8208-5
- Ehrenhalt, Lizzie and Tilly Laskey (eds). 2019. Precious and Adored: The Love Letters of Rose Cleveland and Evangeline Simpson Whipple, 1890-1918. Minnesota Historical Society Press, St. Paul. ISBN 978-1-68134-129-3
- Abbouchi, Mounawar. 2018. “Yde and Olive” in Medieval Feminist Forum: A Journal of Gender and Sexuality, vol 8.
- Perret, Michele. 1985. “Travesties et Transsexuelles: Yde, Silence, Grisandole, Blanchandine” in Journal of the History of Sexuality 25:3 pp.328-340
- Book Shopping for the blog
- Illicit Sex: Identity Politics in Early Modern Culture edited by Thomas Dipiero and Pat Gil
- The Single Woman in Medieval and Early Modern England: Her Life and Representation edited by Laurel Amtower and Dorothea Kehler
- The Unspeakable, Gender and Sexuality in Medieval Literature 1000-1400 by Victoria Blud
- This month’s guest is Anna Clutterbuck-Cook
- This month’s essay topic is: Emily Dickenson in movies
- New and forthcoming fiction
- Clio Rising by Paula Martinac (Bywater Books)
- The Rhythm of the Tide: A lesbian novel by Lia Curling (self-published)
- An Impossible Distance to Fall by Miriam McNamara (Sky Pony Press)
- A Lady's Guide to Celestial Mechanics: Feminine Pursuits by Olivia Waite (Avon Impulse)
- Louisa (Trumbull Family Saga Book 8) by Jenn LeBlanc (Illustrated Romance)
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Monday Oct 05, 2020
The True History of Catharina Vizzani
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 107 with Heather Rose Jones
This is the exciting and somewhat surprising story of an 18th century Italian woman who received a surprising level of acceptance for her sexual orientation, both from her parents and from an employer.
In this episode we talk about:
- The outline of Catherine Vizzani’s life
- Readings from the English translation of her biography, in all their 18th century glory
- The full text of the 1755 English translations of Catherine Vizzani’s biography can be found here.
This topic is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here:
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Historic Lesbians on the Screen: What We Love
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 106 with Heather Rose Jones
The folks on the Lesbian Talk Show facebook group tell me about their favorite lesbian historical movies and miniseries
Movies Mentioned
- The Favourite (2018)
- Gentleman Jack (2019)
- Wild Nights with Emily (2018)
- Tipping the Velvet (2002)
- Fingersmith (2005)
- The Handmaiden (2016)
- The Secret Diaries of Miss Anne Lister (2010)
- If These Walls Could Talk 2 (2000)
- Vita and Virginia (2018)
- Orlando (1992)
- The Hours (2002)
- Packed in a Trunk (2015)
- Carol (2015)
- Reaching for the Moon (2013)
- Albert Nobbs (2012)
- Aimee & Jaguar (1999)
Interview by Elizabeth Andersen with Madeleine Olnek about Wild Nights with Emily on The Tenth Voice
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Interview with Molly Tanzer
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 105 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about:
- Finding inspiration in 18-19th century literature
- Queer themes in historic literature and how they are erased
- Exploring the decadent movement and gender-flipping The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
- The complexities of signaling queer content in mainstream books--are queer relationships spoilers?
- Cultural intersections in Vermillion and why there aren’t any sequels at this point
- Shifts in the social landscape in how authors approach gender, sexuality, and cultural background
- Molly’s attraction to 18th century settings, being inspired by historic aesthetics and artistic movements
- Conversations that manifest in artistic output
- The roots of the modern novel in women’s literature of the 18th century
- Trying to write in the current political climate
Molly’s Books
- Creatures of Will and Temper
- Creatures of Want and Ruin
- Creatures of Charm and Hunger (forthcoming in Spring 2020)
- Vermillion
- Rumbullion (novella) - 18th c “Rashomon with fops” (male protagonist)
- The Pleasure Merchant - 18th c (male protagonist)
Other books mentioned
- The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde
- A Shadow Over Innsmouth by H.P. Lovecraft
- Pamela: or Virtue Rewarded by Samuel Richardson
- Clarissa: or the History of a Young Lady by Samuel Richardson
- Robinson Crusoe by Daniel Defoe
- Don Quixote by Miguel De Cervantes Saavedra
- The Tale of Genji by Murasaki Shikibu
A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Molly Tanzer Online
- twitter: https://twitter.com/molly_the_tanz
- fb: https://www.facebook.com/mollytanzer
- instagram: https://www.instagram.com/molly_tanzer/
- website: http://mollytanzer.com
Monday Oct 05, 2020
Monday Oct 05, 2020
On the Shelf for May 2019
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 104 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.
In this episode we talk about:
- Presenting research from the LHMP at the Kalamazoo Medieval Congress
- The LHMP has a Patreon!
- Get ready to think about the 2020 fiction series
- Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
- Commentary of Dinshaw’s Getting Medieval
- Accusations of male and female sodomy in the church
- Love magic in early Egypt
- Formal cross-gender roles in the Balkans
- Book Shopping for the blog
- Early 20th century love letters
- Abbouci, Mounawar ed. and trans. 2018. Yde and Olive. In Medieval Feminist Forum: A Journal of Gender and Sexuality, Subsidia series vol 8. Medieval Texts in Translation 5.
- Memoire pour Anne Grandjean, connu sous le nom de Jean-Baptiste Grandjean, Accusé & Appellant. Contre M. le Procureur Génêral. Accusateur & Intimé. 1765. Louis Cellot, Paris.
- This month’s author guest is Molly Tanzer (for real this time)
- This month’s essay topic is: TBD
- New and forthcoming fiction
- Two Wings to Fly Away by Penny Mickelbury (Bywater Books)
- The Confessions of Frannie Langton by Sara Collins (Harper Collins)
- Proper English by K.J. Charles (self-published)
- The Railroad of Threads Riva Zmajoki (self-published)
- The Lady and Her Secret Lover: a Lords of Time story by Jenn LeBlanc (Illustrated Romance)
- Precious and Adored: The Love Letters of Rose Cleveland and Evangeline Simpson Whipple, 1890–1918 edited by Lizzie Ehrenhalt & Tilly Laskey (Minnesota Historical Society Press)
- Ask Sappho: Anonymous asks “Why doesn’t the LHMP ever talk about trans lesbians in history?”
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Policing Sexuality and Gender in Early Modern Europe
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 103 with Heather Rose Jones
A continuing look at the structure of categories for gender and sexuality in history, focusing on how specific individuals challenged category definitions.
Previous podcast in this series: Unpacking Gender and Sexuality Categories.
In this episode we talk about:
Anne Grandjean
- Primary Souce: Memoire pour Anne Grandjean, Connu sous le Nom de Jean-Baptiste Granjean, Accusé & Appellant. 1765. Imprimerie de Louis Cellot, Paris. Available for free download from Google Books.
- LHMP Links: Anne Grandjean
Jehanne and Laurence
- Podcast
- Primary Article: Benkov 2001
- LHMP Links: Jehanne & Laurence
Elen@ de Céspedes
- Primary Article: Burshatin 1996
- LHMP Links: Elena/Eleno de Céspedes
Catalina de Erauso
- Podcast
- Primary Article: Velasco 2000
- LHMP Links: Catalina de Erauso
Amy Poulter and Arabella Hunt
- Podcast
- Primary Article: Crawford & Mendelson 1995
- LHMP Links: Amy Poulter & Arabella Hunt
Greta von Mösskirch
- Podcast
- Primary Source: Chronicle of the Counts of Zimmern
- LHMP Links: Greta von Mösskirch
Thomas(ine) Hall
- Primary Article: Brown 1995
- LHMP Links: Thomas(ine) Hall
Catharine Vizzani
- Podcast
- Primary Source: The True History and Adventures of Catharine Vizzani
- LHMP Links: Catharine Vizzani
Other References
- Authorized gender-crossing in the Balkans - Horváth 2011 (will be posted 2019/05/13)
- Nederman & True 1996 - 12th century opinions on a “third sex”
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Interview with Zen Cho
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 102 with Heather Rose Jones
An interview with fantasy author Zen Cho.
NOTE: This month’s On the Shelf incorrectly announced this month’s guest as Molly Tanzer. The Molly Tanzer interview will appear at a future date.
In this episode we talk about:
- The Malaysian influences in Zen’s fiction
- 19th century English literature and engaging with colonial legacies through fiction
- Her favorite historic eras that may see stories in the future
- The challenges of researching less-represented historic eras and regions
- Being inspired by the gaps and omissions in mainstream history
- The similar challenges of writing queer characters and writing non-Western characters
- Books mentioned
A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Zen Cho Online
- Website: zencho.org
- Mailing Lists: Subscribe
- Twitter: @zenaldehyde
- Facebook: Zen Cho
- Instagram: Zen Cho
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
On the Shelf for April 2019
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 101 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.
In this episode we talk about:
- Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
- Articles on 19th c women
- Lesbian-like categories in Arabic literature
- 12th c European gender categories
- Commentaries on Dinshaw’s Getting Medieval
- Accusations of sodomy within the church
- Gender-crossing in medieval French romances
- Book Shopping for the blog
- A Rainbow Thread: An Anthology of Queer Jewish Texts from the First Century to 1969, edited by Noam Sienna
- Precious and Adored: The Love Letters of Rose Cleveland and Evangeline Simpson Whipple, 1890–1918
- This month’s author guest is Zen Cho (originally announced as Molly Tanzer who will appear next month)
- This month’s essay topic is: Policing Gender and Sexuality
- New and forthcoming fiction
- The Huntress by Kate Quinn (William Morrow Paperbacks)
- Sleight of Hand by Ilse V Rensburg aka Jason Hes (Sera Blue)
- Robber Girl by S. T. Gibson (self-published)
- A Vengeance of Spies: A WW2 Novella by Manda Scott (self-published)
- Mrs. Martin’s Incomparable Adventure by Courtney Milan (self-published)
- Liliana by Diana Robbins (self-published)
- Die Frau des Zuckerhändlers by Nathalie C. Kutscher (Telegonos-Publishing)
- No Man's Chattel by Lee Swanson (self-published)
- *S h e r l o c k i a n* Desdemona Valentina - A Femme Fatale Mystery - 1 (Desdemona Valentina Mysteries) by S.L. Freake (self-published)
- Today Dauphine Tomorrow Nothing by Saga Hillborn (self-published)
- Love’s Portrait by Anna Larner (Bold Strokes Books)
- The Cursed Heart by Bonnie Wormsley (Regal Crest Enterprises)
- Gentleman Jack (Movie Tie-In): The Real Anne Lister by Anne Choma (Penguin Books)
- God's Children by Mabli Roberts (Honno Press)
- Ask Sappho: What’s the history of the slang term ‘tommy’ for a lesbian?
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
Sunday Oct 04, 2020
The 100th Episode - Where My Heart Goes
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 100 with Heather Rose Jones
To celebrate the podcast’s 100th episode, I offer you a bonus story.
In this episode we talk about:
- “Where My Heart Goes” by Heather Rose Jones, originally published in Through the Hourglass edited by Sacchi Green and Patty G. Henderson.
- The real historical figures who inspired this story were discussed in episode #5 Laudomia Loves Margaret
A transcript of this podcast may be available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)