The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast

Movie Review: Portrait of a Lady on Fire

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 150 with Heather Rose Jones

A look at media that asks us to embrace the harder parts of history

In this episode we talk about:

• Look: just go see this movie, then come back and listen to the podcast
• How bittersweet stories are part of the triumph of queer media
• Just because it doesn’t have a Happily Ever After ending doesn’t mean it’s an unhappy story
• Properties mentioned
  • Portrait of a Lady on Fire written and directed by Céline Sciamma
  • The Mercies by Kiran Millwood Hargrave

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Interview with Catherine Lundoff of Queen of Swords Press

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 149 with Heather Rose Jones

An interview with the founder of Queen of Swords Press about the process of starting a publishing company.

In this episode we talk about:

• Moving from being published to being a publisher
• Schedules and timelines
• Finding the balance in content
• What to tackle by yourself and when to bring in experts
• Making the finances work
• How success can trip you up
• The surprising cross-market potential of dapper lesbian capybara pirates
• Books mentioned - you are encouraged to buy through the Queen of Swords website
  • Silver Moon by Catherine Lundoff
  • Out of This World by Catherine Lundoff
  • Murder on the Titania by Alex Acks
  • Medusa’s Touch by Emily L. Byrne
  • Scourge of the Seas of Time and Space edited by Catherine Lundoff
  • Wireless by Alex Acks
  • Unfinished Business: Tales of the Dark Fantastic by Catherine Lundoff
  • The Voyages of Cinrak the Dapper by A.J. Fitzwater

A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Links to Queen of Swords Press and Catherine Lundoff Online

• Website: Queen of Swords Press
• Twitter: @QoSPress
• Facebook: Queen of Swords Press
• Website: Catherine Lundoff
• Twitter: @clundoff
• Facebook: Catherine Lundoff (author page)

On the Shelf for March 2020

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 148 with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

In this episode we talk about:

• In the spring, a historian’s fancy lightly turns to thoughts of...historic gardening.
• Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
  • Andreadis, Harriette. 1989. “The Sapphic-Platonics of Katherine Philips, 1632-1664” in Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society 15(1):34-60.
  • Gubar, Susan. 1984. "Sapphistries" in Signs vol. 10, no. 1 43-62.
  • Hallett, Judith. 1979. “Sappho and Her Social Context: Sense and Sensuality. in Signs 4: 447-464.
  • Stigers, Eva Stehle. 1979. “Romantic Sensuality, Poetic Sense: A Response to Hallett on Sappho” in SIgns vol 4, no 3: 465-471.
  • Katz, Marilyn A. 2000. "Sappho and Her Sisters: Women in Ancient Greece" in Signs vol. 25, no. 2 505-531.
  • Bray, Alan. 2003. The Friend. Chicago, University of Chicago Press. 978-0-226-07181-7
  • Verini, Alexandra. 2016. "Medieval Models of Female Friendship in Cristine de Pizan's The Book of the City of Ladies and Margery Kempe's The Book of Margery Kempe" in Feminist Studies vol. 42, no. 2 365-391.
  • Lasser, Carol. 1988. "'Let Us Be Sisters Forever': The Sororal Model of Nineteenth-Century Female Friendship" in Signs vol. 14, no. 1 158-181.
  • Moore, Lisa. 1992. "'Something More Tender Still than Friendship': Romantic Friendship in Early-Nineteenth-Century England" in Feminist Studies vol. 18, no. 3 499-520.
• Announcing this month’s guest, Catherine Lundoff talking about Queen of Swords Press
• New and forthcoming fiction
  • Tooth and Blade by Julian Barr
  • The Flowers of Time (Lost in Time Book 3) by A.L. Lester
  • Red Kate: a tale of lesbian piracy by Sarah Tighe-Ford
  • Dangerous Remedy by Kat Dunn
  • Never Anyone But You: A Novel by Rupert Thomson
  • The Animals at Lockwood Manor by Jane Healey
  • Behind the Bandstand by Theresa J. Everlove
  • Music from Another World by Robin Talley
  • The Mail Order Bride by R. Kent

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Talking to Ghosts by Caitlin Flavell

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 147 with Heather Rose Jones

The first story in our 2020 fiction series, set in Victorian Scotland. The narrator is your host.

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Links to Caitlin Flavell Online

• Website: Clitbait (as a contributor)
• Email: flavellc97@gmail.com
• Twitter: @Flavell97

The Evolution of Butch as a Lesbian Signifier

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 146 with Heather Rose Jones

An investigation across time of how the use of “masculine” clothing developed into a deliberate signal of women’s same-sex interests.

A slideshow version of this show is available on our YouTube channel. (This version does not have the re-mastered intro and references to TLT are obsolete.)

In this episode we talk about:

• Historic Attitudes Toward Clothing Gender
• How Gendered Clothing Confers Gender Characteristics
• Cross-gender Garments Signifying Sexual Unruliness
• Theatrical Contexts Interpreted as Sexually Desirable to Men but Also to Women
• Male-coded Garments in Gender Play Combined with Same-Sex Erotics
• Women with Same-Sex Interests Depicted as Behaving Mannishly
• The Sartorial Stylings of Amazons and Bluestockings
• Lesbians in Riding Habits
• “Mannish” Clothing and the Decadent Movement
• People and Publications (Links are to LHMP blog posts or podcasts unless otherwise noted)
  • Tournament with Cross-dressing Women 14th c
  • Hic Mulier
  • Mary Frith/Moll Cutpurse (podcast)
  • The Roaring Girl by Thomas Dekker and Thomas Middleton
  • Julie d’Aubigny
  • Charlotte Cibber Charke
  • Charlotte Cushman (podcast)
  • The Convent of Pleasure by Margaret Cavendish (1668)
  • The New Atalantis by Delarivier Manley (1709)
  • The Travels and Adventures of Mademoiselle de Richelieu (1744) (podcast)
  • Memoirs of the Life of Count Grammont by Anthony Hamilton (1713)
  • Pamela by Samuel Richardson (1740)
  • Sir Charles Grandison by Samuel Richardson (1753)
  • Belinda by Maria Edgeworth (1801)
  • Diaries of Samuel Pepys (1666) (Wikipedia)
  • Anne Damer (podcast)
  • Ladies of Llangollen: Eleanor Butler & Sarah Ponsonby (podcast)
  • Anne Lister
  • Eupheia by Charlotte Lennox (1790)
  • The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas (1844) (Wikipedia)
  • Mademoiselle de Maupin Théophile Gautier (1835)
  • Nana by Émile Zola (1880)
  • Lélia by George Sand (1833)
  • Natalie Clifford Barney (Wikipedia)
  • Colette (Wikipedia)
  • Rosa Bonheur
• Other References Used
  • Albert, Nicole G. 2016. Lesbian Decadence: Representations in Art and Literature of Fin-de-Siècle France. Harrington Park Press. (not yet blogged)
  • Bennett, Judith and Shannon McSheffrey. 2014. “Early, Exotic and Alien: Women Dressed as Men in Late Medieval London” in History Workshop Journal. 77 (1): 1-25.
  • Castle, Terry (ed). 2003. The Literature of Lesbianism: A Historical Anthology from Ariosto to Stonewall. Columbia University Press, New York. ISBN 0-231-12510-0
  • Donoghue, Emma. 1995. Passions Between Women: British Lesbian Culture 1668-1801. Harper Perennial, New York. ISBN 0-06-017261-4
  • Donoghue, Emma. 2010. Inseparable: Desire Between Women in Literature. Alfred A. Knopf, New York. ISBN 978-0-307-27094-8
  • Faderman, Lillian. 1981.  Surpassing the Love of Men. William Morrow and Company, Inc., New York. ISBN 0-688-00396-6
  • Lanser, Susan S. 2014. The Sexuality of History: Modernity and the Sapphic, 1565-1830. University of Chicago Press, Chicago. ISBN 978-0-226-18773-0
  • Loughlin, Marie H. 2014. Same-Sex Desire in Early Modern England, 1550-1735: An Anthology of Literary Texts and Contexts. Manchester: Manchester University Press. ISBN 978-0-7190-8208-5

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Book Appreciation with Stephanie Burgis

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 145 with Heather Rose Jones

In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting.

In this episode we talk about:

• Books mentioned
  • Proper English by K.J. Charles
  • “Of Books and Earth and Courtship” by Aliette de Bodard
  • House of Shattered Wings by Aliette de Bodard
  • A Little Light Mischief by Cat Sebastian

A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Links to Stephanie Burgis Online

• Website: stephanieburgis.com
• Instagram: stephanieburgisinwales
• Twitter: @stephanieburgis
• Goodreads: Stephanie Burgis

Interview with Stephanie Burgis

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 144 with Heather Rose Jones

A series of interviews with authors of historically-based fiction featuring queer women.

In this episode we talk about:

• Books mentioned
  • Snowspelled by Stephanie Burgis (YA/adult, f/f minor characters)
  • Thornbound by Stephanie Burgis (YA/adult, f/f minor characters)
  • Moontangled by Stephanie Burgis (YA/adult, f/f romance)
  • Masks and Shadows by Stephanie Burgis (adult, not f/f)
  • Kat, Incorrigible by Stephanie Burgis (middle-grade, not f/f)
  • The Disastrous Debut of Agatha Tremaine by Stephanie Burgis (adult f/f, short story)
  • Congress of Secrets by Stephanie Burgis (adult, not f/f)
  • The Dragon with a Chocolate Heart by Stephanie Burgis (middle-grade, not f/f)

A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Links to Stephanie Burgis Online

• Website: stephanieburgis.com
• Instagram: stephanieburgisinwales
• Twitter: @stephanieburgis
• Goodreads: Stephanie Burgis

On the Shelf for February 2020

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 143 with Heather Rose Jones

Your monthly update on what the Lesbian Historic Motif Project has been doing.

In this episode we talk about:

• What your host has been writing lately
• What’s New at Bella - A new lesfic podcast from Bella books
• Submissions are closed for the 2020 Fiction Series. Check the LHMPodcast Index Page for an announcement of the first story.
• Recent and upcoming publications covered on the blog
  • Rupp, Leila J. 2013. "Thinking About 'Lesbian History'" in Feminist Studies vol. 39, no 2 357-361.
  • Vicinus, Martha. 2012. "The History of Lesbian History" in Feminist Studies vol. 38, no. 3 566-596.
  • Foucault, Michel. 1990. The History of Sexuality. Vintage Books, New York. ISBN 978-0-679-72469-8
  • Andreadis, Harriette. 1989. “The Sapphic-Platonics of Katherine Philips, 1632-1664” in Signs: Journal of Women in Culture and Society 15(1):34-60. (link will only be live after the blog posts)
  • Gubar, Susan. 1984. "Sapphistries" in Signs vol. 10, no. 1 43-62. (link will only be live after the blog posts)
  • Hallett, Judith. 1979. “Sappho and Her Social Context: Sense and Sensuality. in Signs 4: 447-464. (link will only be live after the blog posts)
• Announcing this month’s author guest, Stephanie Burgis
• New and forthcoming fiction
  • The Traveler - Book One: The Hunted by Kim Pritekel
  • Merchants of Milan: Book One of the Night Flyer Trilogy by Edale Lane
  • Pioneer Hearts by Becky Harris
  • Belle Revolte by Linsey Miler
  • Deathless Divide by Justina Ireland
  • Moontangled by Stephanie Burgis
  • The Mercies by Kiran Millwood Hargrave
  • End of War in Thermopylae (Thermopylae Bound Book 6) by Belinda Harrison

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Iphis and Ianthe

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 142 with Heather Rose Jones

Tracing same-sex and transgender themes in Ovid’s Classical Roman tale of forbidden love across the ages.

In this episode we talk about:

• Who was Ovid and what type of story was the Metamorphoses?
• The basic plot of the story and the motif of inappropriate love objects
• Gender identity and sexuality in Iphis and Ianthe
• Medieval transmission and the purpose of the “moralized Ovid”
• The Renaissance translations return to Ovid’s original
• Adapting Iphis in Yde and Olive and Gallathea
• Iphis and Ianthe as a mirror for women through the centuries looking for a model of same-sex love
• References
  • Caxton, William. 2013. The Booke of Ovyde Named Methamorphose. Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies, Toronto. ISBN 978-0-88844-182-9
  • Durling, Nancy Vine. 1989. “Rewriting Gender: Yde et Olive and Ovidian Myth” in Romance Languages Annual 1: 256-62.
  • Golding, Arthur. 1567. P. Ouidius Naso, entytuled Metamorphosis, translated oute of Latin into English meeter. Willyam Seres, London.
  • Gower, John. 2013. Confessio Amantis vol. 2 edited by Russell A. Peck, with Latin translations by Andrew Galloway. TEAMS Middle English Texts Series. Medieval Institute Publications, Kalamazoo.
  • Hallett, Judith P. 1997. “Female Homoeroticism and the Denial of Roman Reality in Latin Literature” in Roman Sexualities, ed. By Judith P. Hallett & Marilyn B. Skinner, Princeton University Press, Princeton.
  • Hubbard, Thomas K. 2003. Homosexuality in Greece and Rome: A Sourcebook of Basic Documents. University of California Press, Berkeley. ISBN 978-0-520-23430-7
  • Mills, Robert. 2015. Seeing Sodomy in the Middle Ages. The University of Chicago Press, Chicago. ISBN 978-0-226-16912-5
  • Pintabone, Diane T. "Ovid's Iphis and Ianthe: When Girls Won't Be Girls” in Rabinowitz, Nancy Sorkin & Lisa Auanger eds. 2002. Among Women: From the Homosocial to the Homoerotic in the Ancient World. University of Texas Press, Austin. ISBN 0-29-77113-4
  • Watt, Diane 1998. "Behaving like a man? Incest, Lesbian desire, and gender play in 'Yde et Olive' and its adaptations", Comparative Literature, 50, 4 (Fall 1998): 265-85.
  • Walen, Denise A. 2005. Constructions of Female Homoeroticism in Early Modern Drama. New York: Palgrave MacMillan. ISBN 978-1-4039-6875-3
• The full text of Gower’s Confessio Amantis can be found at the website of the TEAMS Middle English Texts Series
• The full text of Golding’s 1567 translation of the Metamorphoses is available from Wikisource
• This topic is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here: Metamorphoses: Iphis and Ianthe (Ovid)

A transcript of this podcast is available here.

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Book Appreciation with Kate Heartfield

The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 141 with Heather Rose Jones

In the Book Appreciation segments, our featured authors (or your host) will talk about one or more favorite books with queer female characters in a historic setting.

In this episode we talk about:

• Books mentioned
  • Everfair by Nisi Shawl
  • Orlando by Virginia Woolf

A transcript of this podcast may be available here. (Transcripts added when available.)

Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
• Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
• RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
• Twitter: @LesbianMotif
• Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
• The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon

Links to Heather Online

• Website: http://alpennia.com
• Email: Heather Rose Jones
• Twitter: @heatherosejones
• Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Links to Kate Heartfield Online

• Website: heartfieldfiction.com
• Twitter: @kateheartfield
• Facebook: Kate Heartfield