Episodes

Saturday Sep 23, 2023
Lesbian Gothics, Gothic Lesbians - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 268
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
Saturday Sep 23, 2023
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 268 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about:
- The history and definition of the gothic genre
- Features of female-centered gothics
- Sapphic characters as protagonists and antagonists
- A selection of lesbian gothics
- The Marquise and the Novice by Victoria Ramstetter
- Shadows of the Heart by Patty G. Henderson
- The Wife in the Attic by Rose Lerner - Interview with the author
- Lily of the Tower by Elizabeth Hart
- Reader, I Murdered Him by Betsy Cornwell
- The Secret of Matterdale Hall by Marianne Ratcliffe - Interview with the author
- Beulah Lodge by Cathy Dunnell
- Wildthorn by Jane Eagland
- Harkworth Hall by L.S. Johnson
- The Wicked and the Willing by Lianyu Tan - Interview with the author
- The Heiress: The Revelations of Anne de Bourgh by Molly Greeley
- The Ghost and the Machine by Benny Lawrence
- Fingersmith by Sarah Waters
- Affinity by Sarah Waters
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Saturday Sep 02, 2023
On the Shelf for September 2023 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 267
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
Saturday Sep 02, 2023
On the Shelf for September 2023
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 267 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly roundup of history, news, and the field of sapphic historical fiction.
In this episode we talk about:
- Book Shopping
- Goodman, Ruth. 2016. How to be a Tudor: A Dawn to Dusk Guide to Tudor Life. W.W. Norton & Company, New York. ISBN 978-1-63149-253-2
- Cleland, Elizabeth & Adam Eaker. 2022. The Tudors: Art and Majesty in Renaissance England. The Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York. ISBN 978-1-58839-692-1
- Ball, Krista D. 2012. What Kings Ate and Wizards Drank. Tyche Books, Ltd, Alberta. ISBN 978-0-9878248-9-9
- Ndiaye, Noémie & Lia Markey. 2023. Seeing Race Before Race: Visual Culture and the Racial Matrix in the Premodern World. Arizona Center for Medieval and Renaissance Studies Press, Tempe. ISBN 978-0-86698-842-1
- Leonardi, Camillo (trans. Liliana Leopardi). 2023. Speculum Lapidum: A Renaissance Treatise on the Healing Properties of Gemstones. The Pennsylvania State University Press, University Park. ISBN 978-0-271-09539-4
- Hindley, Katherine Storm. 2023. Textual Magic: Charms and Written Amulets in Medieval England. The University of Chicago Press, Chicago. ISBN 978-0-226-82533-5
- Warr, Cordelia. 2023. Medieval Clothing and Textiles 17. The Boydell Press, Woodbridge. ISBN 978-1-78327-598-4
- Not Just the Tudors (podcast)
- Girl Culture in the Middle Ages and Renaissance by Deanne Williams
- Recent Lesbian/Sapphic Historical Fiction
- Ember of a New World by Ishtar Watson
- Sanditon: The Lesbian Solution by Garnet Marriott and Jane Austen
- Where Pleasant Fountains Lie (The New Countess #3) by Lady Vanessa S.-G
- Haven's End (Daughters Under the Black Flag #2) by Eden Hopewell
- The Birdwatchers by Louise Vetroff
- The Haunted Diamond by Becky Black
- He Who Drowned the World (The Radiant Emperor #2) by Shelley Parker-Chan
- Carving a New Shape by Rhiannon Grant
- For Love and Liberty by Eden Hopewell
- Her Duchess by Brooke Winters
- Into the Bright Open: A Secret Garden Remix (Remixed Classics # 8) by Cherie Dimaline
- Other Titles of Interest
- What I’ve been consuming
- The Great Roxhythe by Georgette Heyer
- Space Opera by Catherynne M. Valente
- Call for submissions for the 2024 LHMP audio short story series. See here for details.
- This month we interview Rhiannon Grant and talk about:
- The appeal of a Neolithic setting
- Worldbuilding in archaeological settings
- Exploring spirituality
- Publications mentioned:
- This month we interview Katharine Quarmby and talk about:
- The historic inspiration for the story
- The work of turning archives into fiction
- Finding queer relationships in the historic record
- Fiction and non-fiction as reflections of each other
- Reclaiming marginalized histories
- Publications mentioned:
A transcript of this podcast is available here. (Interview transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Rhiannon Grant Online
- Facebook: Rhiannon Grant
- TikTok (main): @ rhiannonbookgeek
- TikTok (books): @ sapphicprehistory
- Twitter: @bookgeekrelng
- Bluesky: @rhiannonbookgeek.bsky.social
- Mastodon: >@rhiannongrant@mastodon.org.uk
Links to Katharine QuarmbyOnline
- Website: katharinequarmby.com
- Twitter: @KatharineQ
- Facebook: Katharine Quarmby (writer)

Saturday Aug 19, 2023
Our F/Favorite Tropes Part 9: Spies - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 266
Saturday Aug 19, 2023
Saturday Aug 19, 2023
Our F/Favorite Tropes Part 9: Spies
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 266 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about women in espionage through the ages and why this makes a great context for romance
Sources mentioned
- Akkerman N.N.W. 2018. Invisible Agents: Women and Espionage in Seventeenth-Century Britain. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
- If you’re at all interested in early modern female spies, I recommend Akkerman’s entire publications page.
- Wikipedia index of spies by century
- “African American Women Spies” (specific author not listed)
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Saturday Aug 05, 2023
On the Shelf for August 2023 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 265
Saturday Aug 05, 2023
Saturday Aug 05, 2023
On the Shelf for August 2023
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 265 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly roundup of history, news, and the field of sapphic historical fiction.
In this episode we talk about:
- The blog’s continuing hiatus
- Recent Lesbian/Sapphic Historical Fiction
- Our Hideous Progeny by C.E. McGill
- By Moonlight by Lisabet Sarai
- Emma: The Nature of a Lady by Kate Christie
- The Low Road by Katharine Quarmby
- Love in the Shadows by Eden Hopewell
- Behind the Red Curtain by Eve Morton
- Her Dangerous Journey Home (No Man is Her Master #3) by Lee Swanson
- Learned By Heart by Emma Donoghue
- Other Titles of Interest
- What I’ve been consuming
- The Benevolent Society of Ill-Mannered Ladies by Alison Goodman
- The Disenchantment by Celia Bell
- Nimona by N.D. Stevenson (Netflix movie)
- Call for submissions for the 2024 LHMP audio short story series. See here for details.
- This month we interview Annemarie KD:
- This month we interview Meredith Rose:
- This month we interview Lee Swanson:
A transcript of this podcast is available here. (Interview transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Annemarie KD Online
- Annemarie does not have active social media at this time.
Links to Meredith Rose Online
- Website: meredithrosebooks.com
Links to Lee Swanson Online
- Website: LeeSwansonAuthor.me

Saturday Jul 29, 2023
Saturday Jul 29, 2023
To the Fair Muse who, Loving Me, Imagin'd More by Annemarie KD
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 264 with Heather Rose Jones
This quarter’s fiction episode presents “To the Fair Muse who, Loving Me, Imagin'd More” by Annemarie KD, narrated by Heather Rose Jones.
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Saturday Jul 15, 2023
Lesbians as a “Third Sex” - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 263
Saturday Jul 15, 2023
Saturday Jul 15, 2023
Lesbians as a “Third Sex”
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 263 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about:
- Historic contexts in which people conceived as lesbians as belonging to a “third sex”
- Academic studies that use the concept of a “third sex” as a way of understanding historic models of gender and sexuality
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Saturday Jul 01, 2023
On the Shelf for July 2023 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 262
Saturday Jul 01, 2023
Saturday Jul 01, 2023
On the Shelf for July 2023
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 262 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly roundup of history, news, and the field of sapphic historical fiction.
In this episode we talk about:
- Librivox’s “Out of the Closet” short fiction collection
- Recent Lesbian/Sapphic Historical Fiction
- The Hells of Notre Dame (The Phantom of Notre Dame #1) by R.L. Davennor
- Catmint's Moth by Laura Jean Mason
- A Study in Garnet (The Ladies of Baker Street #1) by Meredith Rose
- A Field of Foxglove (Lavender and Foxglove #1) by Hilary Rose Berwick
- Boadicea: Bowed not Broken by Jana Williams
- Northwoman: Part Two by M. Jeffrey
- Sweet Nothings and Other Confections by Sula Sullivan
- Ann's Angel (School of Enlightenment) by Maggie Sims
- Bunny by Annie Moon
- A Crime of Secrets (Donner & Longstreet Mystery #1) by Ann Aptaker
- Devil's Slide (Speakeasy #1) by Stacy Lynn Miller
- Her Forgotten Promise by Corin Burnside
- Other Titles of Interest
- What I’ve been consuming
- Sixpenny Octavo by Annick Trent
- The Hidden Lives of Tudor Women by Elizabeth Norton
- This month we interview Dee Holloway and talk about:
- Stories inspired by Alfred Noyes’ “The Highwayman”
- Origins of the magical water-horses
- “Weird Florida” as a story setting
- Little Nothing by Dee Holloway
- Lamplit Underground (periodical)
- “The Highwayman” by Alfred Noyes, 1906
- The musical version I was trying to remember the composer for: Phil Ochs performing his interpretation, originally released on I Ain’t Marching Anymore, 1965
- This month we interview Lianyu Tan and talk about:
- Winning a Lambda Literary Award as an indie author
- Singapore and writing as a diasporic author
- Vampirism/colonialism
- The attractions of gothic horror
- ”Choose your own ending”
- The Wicked and the Willing by Lianyu Tan
- House of Hunger by Alexis Henderson
- Captive in the Underworld by Lianyu Tan
- Tastes Like War by Grace M. Cho
A transcript of this podcast is available here. (Interview transcripts added when available.)
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Dee Holloway Online
- Twitter: @_deeholloway
- Instagram: @menshevixen
- Itch.io: menshevixen
Links to Lianyu Tan Online
- Website: LianyuTan.com
- Twitter: @LianyuTan
- Mailing List: Subscribe

Saturday Jun 17, 2023
Saturday Jun 17, 2023
Our F/Favorite Tropes Part 7: Aristocrats and Billionaires
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 261 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about:
- Structural parallels between tropes involving titled aristocrats and billionaires
- Different dynamics when adapting those tropes for f/f historic romance
- The complicated problem of providing your heroine with either a noble title or a fortune
- This topic of women’s sources of financial independence is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here: Economic Independence
- A detailed (if technical) article on women’s inheritance of noble titles in French history
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Sunday Jun 04, 2023
On the Shelf for June 2023 - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 260
Sunday Jun 04, 2023
Sunday Jun 04, 2023
On the Shelf for June 2023
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 260 with Heather Rose Jones
Your monthly roundup of history, news, and the field of sapphic historical fiction.
In this episode we talk about:
- Pride Month and book discoverability
- What I did on my summer vacation
- Yes, there will be a 2024 fiction series
- Book Shopping
- Koch, Bea. 2020. Mad & Bad: Real Heroines of the Regency. Grand Central Publishing, New York. ISBN 978-1-5387-0101-0
- Straubhaar, Sandra Ballif. 2011. Old Norse Women's Poetry: The Voices of Female Skalds. D.S. Brewer, Cambridge. ISBN 978-1-84384-271-2
- Allen-Goss, Lucy M. 2020. Female Desire in Chaucer's Legend of Good Women and Middle English Romance. D.S. Brewer, Cambridge. ISBN 978-1-84384-679-6
- Liddington, Jill. 2023. As Good as a Marriage: The Anne Lister Diaries 1836-38. Manchester University Press, Manchester. ISBN 978-1-5261-5735-5
- Kahf, Mohja. 1999. Western Representations of the Muslim Woman: From Termagant to Odalisque. University of Texas Press, Austin. ISBN 978-0-292-74337-3
- New and forthcoming fiction
- Twelve Nights with Viola & Olivia (The New Countess: A Story of Sexy 16th Century Sapphists of Shakespeare) (Book 1 of 2: The New Countess: A Story of Sexy 16th Century Sapphists of Shakespeare ) by by Lady Vanessa S.-G. (Author), Hannah Miyamoto (Editor)
- If I Should Tell my History (The New Countess: A Story of Sexy 16th Century Sapphists of Shakespeare) (Book 2 of 2: The New Countess: A Story of Sexy 16th Century Sapphists of Shakespeare ) by by Lady Vanessa S.-G. (Author), Hannah Miyamoto (Editor)
- Sicili and the Penniless Lad by Rachel C. Neale
- Do Unto Others by Geonn Cannon
- Mortal Follies by Alexis Hall
- Lucky Red by Claudia Cravens
- Killingly by Katharine Beutner
- The First Bright Thing by J.R. Dawson
- The Gulf by Rachel Cochran
- Just One Dance (The Regency Romance Club #1) by Jenny Frame
- What am I reading?
- The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin
- The Murder of Mr Wickham by Claudia Gray
- The Late Mrs Willoughby by Claudia Gray
- The Order of the Pure Moon Reflected in Water by Zen Cho
- The Seventh Bride by T. Kingfisher
- Ruby Finley vs the Interstellar Invasion by Tempest Bradford
- Harriet the Invincible (Hamster Princess #1) by Ursula Vernon
- The Bluestocking Beds Her Bride by Fenna Edgewood
- An Island Princess Starts a Scandal by Adriana Herrera
A transcript of this podcast is available here.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)

Saturday May 20, 2023
Interview with Jill Liddington - The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast Episode 259
Saturday May 20, 2023
Saturday May 20, 2023
Interview with Jill Liddington
The Lesbian Historic Motif Podcast - Episode 259 with Heather Rose Jones
In this episode we talk about:
- The social and economic landscape of Anne Lister’s life
- The dynamics of Lister’s “marriage” to Ann Walker
- The history of the diaries and their amazing legacy
- Jill Liddington’s books about Anne Lister
- Presenting The Past: Anne Lister Of Halifax, 1791–1840, Pennines Pens, 1994.
- Female Fortune: Land, Gender and Authority: The Anne Lister Diaries and Other writings, 1833–36, Manchester University Press (original edition: Rivers Oram Press, 1998).
- Nature's Domain: Anne Lister and the Landscape of Desire, Pennine Pens, 2019.
- As Good as a Marriage: The Anne Lister Diaries 1836-38, Manchester University Press, 2023.
- This topic is discussed in one or more entries of the Lesbian Historic Motif Project here: Anne Lister
A transcript of this podcast will be available here when transcribed.
Links to the Lesbian Historic Motif Project Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com/lhmp
- Blog: http://alpennia.com/blog
- RSS: http://alpennia.com/blog/feed/
- Twitter: @LesbianMotif
- Discord: Contact Heather for an invitation to the Alpennia/LHMP Discord server
- The Lesbian Historic Motif Project Patreon
Links to Heather Online
- Website: http://alpennia.com
- Email: Heather Rose Jones
- Mastodon: @heatherrosejones@Wandering.Shop
- Twitter: @heatherosejones
- Facebook: Heather Rose Jones (author page)
Links to Jill Liddington Online